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Monday, April 12, 2021

Gypsy Names

Each gypsy had three names: 

The first was a secret name whispered into the baby's ear shortly after birth and again when the child reached puberty but never spoken aloud at any other time and never told to anyone else. 

 The second was a gypsy name, used between gypsies only....

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19 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have a question, and I can't find it in any of my books anywhere. What does it mean when you have the phantom smell of roses when there are none. And does the conversation you are having at the time mean anything to the smell or the smell anything to the meaning?

Shirley Twofeathers said...

In general, Roses are happy omens - indicative of health, joy, happiness, budding relationships.

Scents and smells give us hints. They allow us to sense the "flavor" of an idea or a situation. The scent of a rose could mean a blessing on the conversation or a blessing on the content of the conversation.

It is also possible that the conversation or events surrounding the conversation may have triggered a previous life memory, or brought a loving spirit helper into the environment.

Without knowing more about the situation, this is about as helpful as I can be.

Anonymous said...

My family comes from a long line of gypsies. I knew I was always different. My grandmother told me she couldn't tell me my name that it had to be another gypsy. I just feel like I almost don't have an identity. I know this might sound silly but I'm simply trying to find my way. I hope that you can help me.Thanks

Shirley Twofeathers said...

I don't know if I can help you find your way, Esmeralda... but you are certainly welcome here.

Anonymous said...

My name is Jenenne and I understand. You are blessed with having a grandmother to help you. My grandmother refuses to claim her gypsy heritage. Thank the heavens for great aunts! I was at a loss for identity until my soul gave me my name and gypsy journey blessed me with tribal vision. The site is also a blessing. We are not alone:)

B said...

I have always liked what is considered typical "gypsy" stuff, I bellydance, love long skirts, a pretty peice of glass or a coin has always caught my eye. I have dable in magic and a meditaion, candles and charms. But none of my immidiate family is into anything like this. None of my friends either. But about 4 years ago i find out that my grand father isnt my real grandfather. and that my real grandfather was a gypsy, and my grandmother and him only were together long enough to have my mother, and i guess he left...

Then i went snooping through some of my mothers old stuff and found a picture of a a peteite beautiful woman. Looking at the picture i found alot of similarities between us. I think she maybe be my great grand mother.

Is there anyway to trace this back...i would really like to know more about this part of my family. No one will talk about it. It is kept extremely hush hush.

WhO aM i... said...

my last name is king. my first is samantha. i feel like that is not my true name. and i feel as though i have gypsy running through my blood. my family is not rally known for talking to eachother or anyone else for that matter. so i have no inforamation on who i am or where i came from-origionally. i want to know very badley what blood runs through me everyday. i need help,seeing as how my family wont. i just want to know who i am and where i belong.

Who aM i... said...

if you can help me please dont hesatate to call me on my cell. 719/761-0312 my name is samantha king.

Cauldronkitty said...

My family history is very vague. I suppose, like a lot of others, they wanted to blend in and be like everyone else.
I don't know if we could be Gypsy/Rom or not. But I do have a question. I have a copy of Ray Buckland's Chant-o-matics and one of his chants for "respect and admiration" is gayoset. This is VERY close in sound to our old family name. I have searched online for the word and nothing turns up.
First, do you know what the word means?
And second, where did it come from?
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

hi to ya folks,i learnt gypsy about gypsy magic and there way of life about 37 yrs ago......it,s a great site and catch ya later

greg

Catalina said...

I don't know my past...is it possible for a non-gypsy to become a gypsy?

Anonymous said...

My question involves gypsy magic. I am a decendent of an ancient gypsy line, and I have always wondered, would gypsies be considered wizards, warlocks, or a type of priest, in regards to their magic? Any help on this would be appreciated.

Shirley Twofeathers said...

Gypsy magick is more of a hedge witch, kitchen magick sort of thing. I wouldn't expect a Gypsy Witch to be called a sorcerer, wizard, high priestess, or anything like that.

Avigdor said...

To those who are feeling lost orwondering how to find the truth or your path...You know, sometimes you just have to trust your heart and follow your feeling, regardless of historical facts or truths. Many of us today are living with disconnections from our past and heritage, and most of us are of mixed blood. Those things should not keep us from having a cultural or spiritual identity. I myself am not Rom. Some of my family were and are Irish Gypsies, which is not the same. Howeverwe do share many cultural ties, associations and similarities with the Rom, as Gypsies. If you do a bit of research you'll find there are over a hundred different cultural groups throughout the world that are identified as Gypsy. So if you feel you are Gypsy...then be Gypsy, even if you are alone. Study and learn what you can, embrace what seems right and don't worry too much about the rest. Be open to finding similar souls, but my advice is if you are not Rom by blood or heritage then look into some of the other Gypsy groups, where you might be more readily accepted and feel more comfortable.

Aviigdor said...

"would gypsies be considered wizards, warlocks, or a type of priest, in regards to their magic?"

I think we share a lot in common with South American Shamans, who are called Sorcerers, and who are aware of and in tune with spirit entities which arise from plant, mineral, animal, and general "wild" nature.

We also are steeped in "fortune telling" or divination so I found this interesting:
"A sorcerer is etymologically a drawer of ‘lots’ – for the word comes ultimately from Latin sors ‘lot’ (source also of English sort). The plural sortēs was used for the ‘responses made by oracles’, and this formed the basis of the Vulgar Latin noun *sortārius ‘priest of the oracle’, hence ‘caster of spells’. It passed into English via Old French sorcier as sorser, which was later extended to sorcerer"

Also, some biblical references to Sorcery come from the greek 'pharmakeia', which refers to a potion maker, and we have a long association with that art as well.

So for myself, I identify with being a Srcerer when it comes to our particular type of magic.

ravencoors said...

I don't know but I'm wiccan and I relate so much with gypsies and the beauty they bring here. My family has always help gypsies and the inturn helped us I believe through there magick even though my parents are very.Christian. my question is I don't have any gypsy blood is it possible to be taught in the ways of gypsy's. Love and light

gypsyblood said...

My grandfather on my mother side is romanian gypsy, but since I do not speak with him I do not know excatly how much gypsy I am, my mother sayd I look like one, and so has alot of other people but I don't know how to get in touch with that side of my blood, I have always been attracted to "magic" so to speak, but I can't work wiccan, or pagan magic, but I tried a gypsy spell and it got all messed up, I think its becuase I don't know much and am not in touch with that side, pelase help me understand

Catherine said...

Can a gypsy turn to a non-gypsy? Because I am a non-gypsy and my fiance is a gypsy. And i don't want to be part of a gypsy world.

Unknown said...

I was wondering...If I might have Romani genetics. My family tree was traced back to India but I'm not sure that we were low caste Indians. Any way to know if we're part gypsy?

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